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Anyone still playing league games?
« on: February 18, 2012, 04:55:37 AM »
I want to play, but all I see are old league players playing in non-league games.  If I wanted to play non-league anc inland sea, I never would have joined the league.  Why would I want to play with some tools who create a new name every 5 mins because they get a bad reputation?

Where are you guys?  Let's do some medi lakes.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2012, 04:56:11 AM by Zhenon »
[PPP]jobe_c4f: you want my mod zhenon? that's rather pathetic, what you're doing O_o
[PPP]jobe_c4f: i feel just sad for humaniy seing it

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Re: Anyone still playing league games?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2012, 09:55:27 PM »
Well, I was initially going to post saying that CCC is coming up...(16-18 March)

But let me suggest this :

Perhaps it's time to change the approach of the league on this,
perhaps should you set organized session in order to play.
Just as an exemple, the FLY tone down and are sticking to weekly games at 9PM on the monday, and after some hiatus, and some time to put this inplace, I'm happy to say that we have 12 people on the roster, play for a full 5H straight each monday, and are able to play 4v4 medi lakes, and 3v3 Ren Inland weeks in weeks out.

I'd say : get a core 4 to 6 (4 is enough) players that meet each week for teamers with you, and if your public enough on the forum, after a few weeks you might see the numbers going up.

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Re: Anyone still playing league games?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2012, 10:29:34 PM »
There are very few non-french clan-players left.  All we have left are the the Russians, the anc-ss-only players, and the cheaters.

It looks like your clan will be the only one participating in the CCC.  Perhaps you should expand your group.   I will look to play this Monday.  I won't presume to invite myself to your french party, but perhaps some other old-timers will show up as well.  Is French TS still up?
« Last Edit: February 18, 2012, 10:30:59 PM by Zhenon »
[PPP]jobe_c4f: you want my mod zhenon? that's rather pathetic, what you're doing O_o
[PPP]jobe_c4f: i feel just sad for humaniy seing it

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Re: Anyone still playing league games?
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2012, 02:56:16 PM »
Is French TS still up?

You can use the leagues TS server as well for your needs, it is used quit regularly by the Civ5 players, but it is equally available for any Civ4 or Civ3 players that want voice chat.

http://www.civplayers.com/index.php?section=smf&topic=9824.0

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Re: Anyone still playing league games?
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2012, 03:52:47 PM »
I dunno if it the Fact the mod was made compulsory or just the Horrible pink color that put people off but the mod killed C4 ladder for sure

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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2012, 04:05:39 PM »
I dunno if it the Fact the mod was made compulsory or just the Horrible pink color that put people off but the mod killed C4 ladder for sure

Well I doubt the pink colour was the factor :P  But the fact that the mod killed the map hack might have been at fault.  It seems a large number of the remaining players didn't want to relearn the game without being able to cheat.  Sad really.

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Re: Anyone still playing league games?
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2012, 05:59:58 PM »
LEAGUE GAMES ON MONDAY!

Be there!
[PPP]jobe_c4f: you want my mod zhenon? that's rather pathetic, what you're doing O_o
[PPP]jobe_c4f: i feel just sad for humaniy seing it

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Re: Anyone still playing league games?
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2012, 06:31:20 PM »
For some reason reply with quote is almost as laggy as playing civ v

Whilst the mod is Great and im 1000000% behind it trying to get some new players to spend 1 hour or more (not everyone as superfast Internet) to dl it is just not going to happen and as things stands theres probably 20 ex ladder players still playing (anc ss mostly) a few of us play FFA ya know the ones with some skill ;) so if you want new blood something needs to be done.

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Re: Anyone still playing league games?
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2012, 07:30:14 PM »
I realize it might be a harder sell for new players, but it is either spend an hour downloading it once, or forever playing with cheaters...I know what my choice would be.

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Re: Anyone still playing league games?
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2012, 10:10:30 PM »
There is a chance that the MOD killed the league indeed, and if it did, it's probably a combination of the fact that it wasn't trivial to install (Bantams point) but also that it might have indeed put off some cheaters (CS point)

All in all, we had the ability to release a compulsory mod for a while, but at the time we never had so many complains, cheating did appear to be rampant, so it look the best thing to do.
I'm glad it pushed me the remaining hours to finish up the good work that BTG was, and, all in all, I think it was the correct call to force it. (as in, better try that than see the league die off by overcheatization).


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There are very few non-french clan-players left.  All we have left are the the Russians, the anc-ss-only players, and the cheaters.

It looks like your clan will be the only one participating in the CCC.  Perhaps you should expand your group.   I will look to play this Monday.  I won't presume to invite myself to your french party, but perhaps some other old-timers will show up as well.  Is French TS still up?

I agree, and I'm as disappointed as you that players left like that.

To be fair, we will have 1 (maybe 2) Russian teams per event, and, on paper we can fill in 3 frenchies (FLY & Civfr) team, so we are guaranteed a week-end of fun for CCC anyway.
I can only hope that there is a spur of interest from other players, and would gladly help.
It's always a matter of knowing how to do it.


Yes, our french, TS server is still up, Civ4 players still login regularly
(81.28.97.25:8767 -- pw: coa)

It would be very good to have you, and many other players on the Monday,
assuming we get a spot you can totally play with us (we usually plan via doodle on this refreshed page)
http://doodle.com/8r7vsunc5x8hgec8ubhds68x/admin#table

I can only recommend try to do that same with the league.
Shall we start a list of active players and PM them perhaps ? There are many players from the league playing non-league nowadays, it's just a matter of compiling a list really.

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Re: Anyone still playing league games?
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2012, 11:07:43 PM »
I've had absolutely no success in rousing interest to play in the upcoming ccc and here's what I think it is. A) old players are not willing to come back unless it is guaranteed that there will be many competitive events ie, the best players all play. B) 5 + years of bickering has made people unwilling to play with each other C) many of the players that still play are league players but have no ccc experience and are intimidated. I don't believe the mod killed the league because people didn't want to play without their maphack (or if so very few) I think it was because people are just plain lazy and unwilling to d/l the file because simply that's not how it was done in the "old days".
Zhenon, I'm on 2-3 days a week during the weekday, between 12p.m. and 4 p.m. PCT, and am practicing late era starts with anyone willing to duel me in them.
Also I've talked to old XXX and PPP players and for a combination of the three reasons above they are not willing to play.
Sporadically there are troves of old players playing and recently we have played some 3v3 medi, reni and 4v4 and 5v5 anc ss, with 80% of the players being league players, we just need a few more to give the league some defibrillation.
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Re: Anyone still playing league games?
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2012, 11:41:25 PM »
Well I still believe releasing the mod was the only decision we could have made, it was either watch the league die from cheating, or release the mod and hope people are not to lazy to install it :-/

In the end the fate of the league is in the players hands, if their are still players around that want league games they need to re-energize the league.  Just look at the C3C players, a game years older than Civ4 and they still have a dedicated group of players.

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Re: Anyone still playing league games?
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2012, 12:05:07 PM »
lads the mod stopped the maphack i taught it was much better when mod 1st came out and only 12-15 ladder player used the mod .would love to see the league reignited but with very few players its looking dim
we barley have 10 ladder players on lobby at one time any more

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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2012, 07:48:35 AM »
It would help if ladder players won't be the first to quit/ruin games.
And if we would just get together at prearranged times, it would be better.

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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2012, 08:11:47 PM »
It would help if ladder players won't be the first to quit/ruin games.
And if we would just get together at prearranged times, it would be better.

Any player whether league or not is going to prone to quitting open games, that is why we invented the league 10 years ago.  If players quit league games then you should be reporting them, and then me or Penny will deal with that, and law and order will be restored.

It used to be that evening around 7pm est were the peak times and afternoons on the weekends, but people have just lost faith I guess.

We did have a small but good CCC last weekend, and had many old players come back for it, so I'm hoping that this jumpstarts the lobby games again.  But in the end that is still up to the players.

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