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Offline Zhenon

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Re: GOD DQ from renny LOL!!!
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2010, 02:54:39 PM »
This is funny to me -- coming from the clan that wanted to scrap and rehost the anc ss event game after Nicky died and the lag was horrendous :D
[PPP]jobe_c4f: you want my mod zhenon? that's rather pathetic, what you're doing O_o
[PPP]jobe_c4f: i feel just sad for humaniy seing it

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Re: GOD DQ from renny LOL!!!
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2010, 03:03:28 PM »
It would be nice if we had just an ounce of sportsmanship. People are late to events all the time, my clan included. PPP waited for us one CCC with connection issues for over 45 mins. This CCC the Ironman players were kind enough to help out my new player OvO find his way to the game when the lobby was frigged.

If all players were there and ready to play, why not play it?? Why seek out a DQ for a win. Makes no sense to me.

For the players who cant refrain from swearing and flaming, suspend them.
Right decision was made.
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Re: GOD DQ from renny LOL!!!
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2010, 03:12:26 PM »
so why didn't you mention that you left the full staging room after we didn't x in cause we haven't decided on our civs yet?
why didn't you mention that you declared yourselves for the winner without contacting admin or TD and hosted GOD vs FLY?
why are you posting straight up lies? neither ape Mll Scorp or me played the ANC final (Spart joined for Scorp when staging was full and he didn't play anyway)
Why you refused to play us? but argued for over an hour instead of playing? why you made FLY wait for 30 min? questions over questions
You show zero sportmanship cause you rather wanted a free win via DQ than play us and you even admit it in your first post.....
well if there is someone to blame its me i slept in woke up a little too late, people who know me know why i sleep in from time to time  ;D
now thats my side of the story
« Last Edit: February 28, 2010, 04:49:57 PM by workboat »
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Re: GOD DQ from renny LOL!!!
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2010, 04:50:43 PM »
Most [GOD] are pretty respectful players and genuine nice guys, even some gals like Atomic. Every clan has one or two players who are a little off the wall but I don't think that should reflect on the whole clan destroyer. I can really appreciate what Exx is doing here, giving his clan a strong voice and fighting for them even when he knows he is up against an impossible wall. Its that kind of tenacity that earns you respect in any league.

Wish you guys had played the event tho and then brought it up after. Thats the way I would have gone.
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Re: GOD DQ from renny LOL!!!
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2010, 06:28:45 PM »
Post deleted, I got the message.
For all the "average" players who wont stand up to the "elite"- I will.

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Re: GOD DQ from renny LOL!!!
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2010, 07:19:47 PM »
You guys seem to be forgetting the most important thing.....  I had to wait!!!!!!!!!..... That is right people... MGT had to wait in staging. Dozens of minutes of my time was wasted and this is clearly a violation of every rule and possibly even the Geneva Convention. The only logical solution for such a crime is to expel every member of DVE from the league and award GOD 50 points in the CCC. After the above is completed I will feel recouped for about half the time I lost. For the other half I will accept the first born love child between RedPhoenix and tommynt, plus I will need a public statement from the league confirming that they will build a giant colossus like statue of me in CS's living room to remind him for all time of the tragedies which transpired on this desolate weekend.....

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Re: GOD DQ from renny LOL!!!
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2010, 07:25:54 PM »
Since we are being realistic here, my request still stands for that talking unicorn... ::)
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Re: GOD DQ from renny LOL!!!
« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2010, 07:47:41 PM »
Damm I love to hate MGT, you definately have a future writing for Saturday Night Live.  Perhaps you can take Marr with you and make millions.... or millions more according to your previous posts.

You guys seem to be forgetting the most important thing.....  I had to wait!!!!!!!!!..... That is right people... MGT had to wait in staging. Dozens of minutes of my time was wasted and this is clearly a violation of every rule and possibly even the Geneva Convention. The only logical solution for such a crime is to expel every member of DVE from the league and award GOD 50 points in the CCC. After the above is completed I will feel recouped for about half the time I lost. For the other half I will accept the first born love child between RedPhoenix and tommynt, plus I will need a public statement from the league confirming that they will build a giant colossus like statue of me in CS's living room to remind him for all time of the tragedies which transpired on this desolate weekend.....

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Re: GOD DQ from renny LOL!!!
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2010, 12:21:14 AM »
I agree he shouldn't have said it, but the point is how does it help the current topic?  The issue is, should DVE be DQ-ed or not, whether admin have a word with Mango about his language is unrelated.

As I said above, the stuff about this son looking over this shoulder is totally moot, it's sole purpose was to win ladder sympathy.

It's like those TV talent shows, when people start talking about their disability.

This was covered in the introduction lesson at the school of Levi, it's the oldest trick in the Levi hand book.

Well correct ruling would be to suspend the players who verbally abused other ladder players. First of all.

Then to the point of DVE or GOD being DQ, the ruling was perfectly correct. It is from the moment admin is contacted, admins can't make rulings guessing what happened before that. But once they note the situation and see whats happening they make a decision, god didn't abide by this and play... which is imo really stupid since DVE had the players, why would you not want to play??

Either way, good ruling by admins, now suspend the offenders too.

I never said anything about the ruling (I don't know the ins and outs to be honest); it was the way Ape was trying to play the victim by talking about something completely unrelated and trying to further his cause by bringing his kid into the whole discussion, that lacks class!

As I said before Mango should not have gone off the handle, admin can/should deal with this as they see fit.  But this "take my side because my poor kid saw some swearing" just doesn't make sense, when ventharassment is clearly shown saying things a lot worse (and he does regularly).  Here is a tip Ape, if you don't want your kid to see bad words ... DON'T LET HIM READ THE LOBBY ... IT'S UNREGULATED!

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Re: GOD DQ from renny LOL!!!
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2010, 12:29:57 AM »
Well, looks like the right decision was made here. There is no reason to try and force a forfeit or DQ on someone over timing issues on a game that's being played from around the globe. It's also pretty poor form to bring it to the forums, but I think Exxe might have figured that out by now..  >:D

As far as Ap3 pulling a Levi.. Think ya nailed it, Tony.. Ap3's kids = Ap3's responsibility. Stop trying to use them to get everybody else to behave the way you want them to behave, Ap3. If I never see them used again for such a purpose, it will already have occurred too many times.

I think MGT makes most of the sense here. I just don't understand why you need the genetic the blend of Red and Tommy, but I believe the union has already occurred, and Jobe is that love child.

Oh, and just so we're clear.. Ap3's mother is an Orangutan.
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Re: GOD DQ from renny LOL!!!
« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2010, 01:37:53 PM »
NM, I delted my reply.  Who really cares if a few kids get upset and curse me out.  Too bad this is considerd ok behavior.
« Last Edit: March 01, 2010, 02:08:12 PM by AP3 »

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Re: GOD DQ from renny LOL!!!
« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2010, 02:38:12 PM »
Just so you know, AP3 and others, I agree with you that several of the extreme responses, as evidenced by the screen shots, were abusive and beyond what is acceptable.  At least one person who made the most foul comments was given a 10 day box suspension (not by me, but by another admin who was offended). I do support him however, and in fact, emailed him with the comment "Bravo". I'm sure if you look at our Suspended Players link you can figure out who I am referring to.

Between that and the peer pressure exerted here by others, I hope all CCC participants learned several things from this unfortunate episode:

a) if you have a complaint about a team delaying a game, take it to an Admin or TD immediately.  Let them investigate the delay and penalize or disqualify anyone

b) There is no reason to rage quit a CCC game and refuse to play

c) Especially during the CCC the ordinary 10 minute rule does not apply.  You have to be a little more forgiving of drops, and such.  Some events take longer than others.  Be patient, please.

d) Show respect for the event, other players, and the tough job the Admins and TDs have. Cursing people out is neither mature not productive.

Thanks for letting me have my 2 cents on the matter.

Best, SPM

« Last Edit: March 01, 2010, 02:40:01 PM by SirPartyMan »

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Re: GOD DQ from renny LOL!!!
« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2010, 06:05:45 PM »
I am sure that SPMs explanations are sufficient but I will post my view also because I was involved in this dispute.
My participation in it started when Spart messaged me in c4f. He said that GOD clan had left staging room after they started picking civs. I was online during the whole CCC and noone pmed me before about anything between DVE and GOD.
The only reasonable explanation I have got from [GOD]Exxe was that they have spent too much time picking civs. I dont want to blame GOD, because it is new to CCC, of course, in the current set and I am very happy that new clan is founded. But such reason cant be treated seriously. CCC is first of all the way to recieve fun and expirience from our favourite game.

Of course there are rules by which you are not to wait for 30 or more minutes and of course you have ways to enhurry and enforce your opponents to play at scheduled time. But let's see how it must happen step by step.

1) You give time to your opponents to get team in. Lets say that you give them 10 minutes at least. Feel free to announce in lobby that you have hosted the game and ready to play.
2) You inform TD that you have full team and waiting for other.
After this time it is not your bussiness to warn and enhurry your opponents. It is all TDs job.
If there is no TD avaliable, contact any admin, mail us or whatever.
3) TD contacts team captain and asks for the reason of the delay.
All the sides are to try to solve problems together including connection issues using all reasonable attempts.
4) After it becomes obvious that the only team can be blamed in the delay TD gives it warning and request them to get subs.
5) TD gives the final warning and final time to get in the game. It is usually no more than five minutes, but noone can be disqualified without this stage.
So the summary is that if you dont message TD it is considered that you agree to wait. Clans can never disqualify each other without TD decision.

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P.S: someone please translate my post to MGT
Oh, damn! I have just lost 51%. How could that happen? Where is firaxis complaint section?

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Re: GOD DQ from renny LOL!!!
« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2010, 06:22:56 PM »
Well i see admins dont get what im trying to post here,, im asking why u do some rules if u r the 1st in not applying them,,

No admins were there atm so i only talked to Mil0 nothing more i could have done..
I would have played but after a so long wait and see that others renny where just in mid of game i lost interest playing with them.

AP3 for ur comments of that i should grow up,, etc. LOL

I dont get why u post that SS about a fu ,, if for that word my brother is suspended (ITS ok SPM u can tell who did u suspend) what about Scorpio or MLL they should be banned from league.

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Re: GOD DQ from renny LOL!!!
« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2010, 06:53:20 PM »
This is funny to me -- coming from the clan that wanted to scrap and rehost the anc ss event game after Nicky died and the lag was horrendous :D

And what this has to do with the renny???

 

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