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Re: Follow in direct live PPP vs NBK Iroman game!!
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2009, 01:41:49 PM »
Where's the joy of winning if you don't do it fair and square?

Plus, we should have all ppl watching it join over an IRC channel with good Ironman players as commentators, explaining to spectators more about what they are watching (something like the bridge vugraphs, if you know what I mean!).
Would also be a thrill for the players to read the commentaries afterwards and see their mistakes and genious moves analyzed by other good players :D
Great way to learn for all the people involved if you ask me!!!

I´ve been doing some fact-checking on how to get a commentar into a game via the spectator mod (Pennys idea - Imhotep did a mod based on it) and have him record and comment the game. That was before Penny found this incredible site.

Assuming the goal of having a competetive game broadcast this way (not the goal of having ANY game broadcast just like that) we could try the following:

Mirrored map with preset positions, equal positions (2 teams opposing each other and  and third team with the spectator/commentator/broadcaster in it. He gets his unlimited spy points and the airship with infinite sight/flying range. The city he has to plant could be on a 1 tile island on a neutral point of the map (not posible on just any settings I guess). You see a little less of what each player is doing this way, btu you see all players and you have a commentator scrolling around the map and explaining what is happening everywhere.

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Re: Follow in direct live PPP vs NBK Iroman game!!
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2009, 01:57:29 PM »
That could work as well. But we can do it on irc as we are right now, only they will talk about one player(team)'s game.

P.S. Why mirror land anyway?

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Re: Follow in direct live PPP vs NBK Iroman game!!
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2009, 02:10:52 PM »

I need to talk to Imhotep, or anyone who could help into this.

I did not make a fuss of this, cause I do not think I'm 100% reliable in this, but I've been putting quite some time in the SDK myself. I've managed to do valuable things (add some useful option) but I'm struggling with more difficult one due to my lack of C++ Knowledge. (Namely, the Multiple Production option we talked about Jobe, is not working fully).

Anyway, While browsing trough the ::ShareVision and similar function, I've noticed that Primaxe noted the code with (unused) remarks at that location. He also told me having spectator mode coded wasn't THAT difficult (for him :p).
If Imho has put time into a similar MOD, and considering is just more useful in IT than I'm, perhaps he'll know how to handle this.

Ps : The main problem with my "fun" Spectator MOD, was that the infinite Spy points was applying for 1 of the player who just sit there...but it was player, meaning it would screw up the map for a 3v3 i.e. But it was ok to watch OCC...

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Re: Follow in direct live PPP vs NBK Iroman game!!
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2009, 02:37:55 PM »
Scottish set this up on his computer last night and streamed 5 duels.  4 non-ladder, 1 ladder, causing me to stay up *way* too late, watching them..  Two of the non-ladder matches were tough games against Metallian.  I'll let you guess the results. :)
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Re: Follow in direct live PPP vs NBK Iroman game!!
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2009, 02:46:40 PM »
Then it didnt stop as it did yesterday for penny?

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Re: Follow in direct live PPP vs NBK Iroman game!!
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2009, 02:52:53 PM »
Then it didnt stop as it did yesterday for penny?
It was doing the same thing at first, but Scottish did manage to make it stop doing that.

His address if you want to watch the logged games is livestream.com/civ4NBK
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Re: Follow in direct live PPP vs NBK Iroman game!!
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2009, 02:53:21 PM »
Great idea the live streaming, too bad I was not around yesterday....and too bad that to play such nice games you have to be either in PPP, FLY, RUS or NBK....
Get any team of 4 and we'll play you, assuming a suitable date can be found.  I highly recommend this sort of game for anyone looking to improve their buildup and overall game knowledge (this post is directed at you Scorpio!).
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Re: Follow in direct live PPP vs NBK Iroman game!!
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2009, 02:56:37 PM »
Ah awesome, then we are ready for CCC.

We'll try to have it installed on most good FLY computers (not mine for example  :P) and stream our games this weekend.

About the spying question, as someone said, there is no enjoy to win cheating, we dont really care wining anymore anyway and i know you are all good guys  ;)

Penny comme t'as un boulot plutôt reposant  :P, t'as tout le temps d'ecrire ce guide d'install pour les noob fly  :P

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Re: Follow in direct live PPP vs NBK Iroman game!!
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2009, 03:05:38 PM »
Please announce these kind of games on front page a few days in front
Im sure we are many who will be watching.
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Re: Follow in direct live PPP vs NBK Iroman game!!
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2009, 03:22:25 PM »
Sum up of the game btw :

PPP dark forces :

Joby Joba, official singer of the gayspy kings (charismatique/ of byz)

Decebal alias i am banned of uciv because i quit because turns was too faster (on an ironman? rofl  :P) alias i play on a windows 98 processor 1  :P (agr/cre of zulu)

Milonoosbki alias the man who wanted to be backstabed by moineau in an ironman (exp/ of holly roma)

BigB who asked nicely to his team to not try wining by space because they would lose it same turn and that was better to play on points  :P (spi/philo of russia)

Schizanu alias Schizanu (imp/fin of something)

AGAINST

the good side of the force :

Penny alias Record Man i cheat with my 5 golds on cap (spi/phi of russia)

Speaker alias sexy voice my dream is to be as sexy as moineau (exp/fin of fast worker that he stole to me saying he would box me if i didnt want to trade)

Moinette alias well just call me moinette (crea/org, NBK guys decided to give me some crappy trait to avoid me to plant to many cities)

MookieNj alias let's move out of my good food to get an awesome 2 crabs start ( ch/imp of byzan)

ScottishFury alias crappy traits powered (tra/agr) and i cant make cities as i have to make all wonders + missionary for everyone.

Then the game start, penny got all gold of the map, even poping an other one, Scottish start to play turn 60 when he stoped all wonders and missionary we asked him to do, Mookie decide that his 2 corn and 3 pig would sux for his cap and move out of them to plant a costal 2 crab city and ask nicely who stole all river.

After 2h we are turn 10, yes it's a bit lagging, and asking nicely to switch the timer to blazing.10 sec later Decebal start crying that he cant manage his 2 workers and 1 city for these 1min30 sec timer and we switch back in fast.

Moinette try desesperately to get Metallian subing him, as the game is way too slow, but cause this freacking streaming he saw how laggy the game was and all my lies about how intense it was was useless.

Jobe lagging after alt tabing on the streaming page to be sure he can plant this city without any warrior.

I win a 3.3, warrior against warrior on forest+25% of fortification, i get a double forest that i send on milo who win the crtl-A to save his empty city.

My scout defeat a chariot  :P and i say them to accelerate the timer if they want i stop cheating.

Scott hacked my civ color and then i cant even see what cities are mine as our both territory are close each other.

Metallian quote on TS : what are you friging doing Mookie to have this so low score?

It's midnight, we finnaly advance to reny era when they attack me, 4vs1, scottish in my back finnaly was allowed to make settler and planting his second city wont be able to help me.

I upgrade but the 80% fall down, time to stop, frenchies are working tomorow, we have to be on time the monday to ask our friday to play the CCC, it was fun, thx guys.

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Re: Follow in direct live PPP vs NBK Iroman game!!
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2009, 03:52:47 PM »
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Re: Follow in direct live PPP vs NBK Iroman game!!
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2009, 04:41:27 PM »
Let´s say half of the description is correct :P
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Re: Follow in direct live PPP vs NBK Iroman game!!
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2009, 05:01:21 PM »
hahahaha.....moineau legendaire ;D ;D ;D
ruppert murdock,need ya ;D ;D ;D
your last thread  earned  the pulitzer prize ;D

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Re: Follow in direct live PPP vs NBK Iroman game!!
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2009, 06:06:01 PM »
The livestreaming is really easy to set up. I was able to do it without even talking to Penny. However there are a lot of options/settings to mess around with to perhaps increase the updating so there's not so much lag, the resolution, etc. But I haven't played around enough to know which settings work best.

At first my livestream would drop every 20 minutes or so. When that happened I had to restart everything, which is annoying, but doesn't take long. However by the end of the night I streamed for close to 2 hours without interruption. This may be a bandwidth issue with my ISP, the bandwidth of the free service, or something else entirely. But we noticed that the interruptions stopped when it was much later at night.

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« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2009, 06:20:24 PM »
I just started watching the playback of one of my duels against metallian. This would be really cool if he had the program running as well, and you could watch side by side each turn. That would be the next step I think in making this more interesting.

 

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